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« on: September 29, 2010, 04:01:45 PM »

I'm applying to a law school (Seattle to be specific) where the 25th percentile figures are at 155 LSAT and 3.16 GPA. I'm at a lowly 155 LSAT and 3.0 GPA. I'm hoping my work experience (2 years as a records manager at a law firm and intern for 6 months at the DA's office) and LORs from DDA's and firm partners that I know pretty well can put me over the edge. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 04:09:31 PM »

Oh and I've been out of school for 3 years. I heard law schools tend to favor that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 04:16:26 PM »

Just looking at it raw and without knowing what your personal statement, additional essay, résumé, or letters will actually look like, I would say that you're most likely looking at a waitlist, but probably not an acceptance. Granted, there's no telling what law schools will do every year, and 25th percentiles exist because people get accepted with those numbers, so you may very well be one of those. However, I would say that it won't just be your work experience and LORs that will put you over the edge. Everything else (statement, any additional essays, résumé) will have to be stellar to really give you an edge. Law schools like students that are not fresh out of college, but not enough where they're totally willing to overlook an LSAT score at the 25th and a GPA below the 25th percentile. If you're going to stick with that LSAT score and not retake it to see if you can get a higher one, then my advice would definitely be to make sure everything else in your application is spotless and stellar, if you really want to increase your chances of acceptance.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 04:28:39 PM »

I'd say deny/waitlist, based on the strength of the rest of the file. The numbers aren't strong enough to have a decent chance of acceptance IMHO.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2010, 04:32:03 PM »

I'm applying to a law school (Seattle to be specific) where the 25th percentile figures are at 155 LSAT and 3.16 GPA. I'm at a lowly 155 LSAT and 3.0 GPA. I'm hoping my work experience (2 years as a records manager at a law firm and intern for 6 months at the DA's office) and LORs from DDA's and firm partners that I know pretty well can put me over the edge. What do you guys think?

Where did you get your numbers from?
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2010, 05:06:49 PM »

Cool. Thanks Anne and LawSchoolGuy!

@ Alabama Slama - I got those numbers from http://officialguide.lsac.org/release/OfficialGuide_Default.aspx
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 05:54:42 PM »

Cool. Thanks Anne and LawSchoolGuy!

@ Alabama Slama - I got those numbers from http://officialguide.lsac.org/release/OfficialGuide_Default.aspx

Dude, that's a great site!
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 02:35:59 PM »

Sort of related to the thread title not so much to the content--do schools pip you if you have work experience for a bunch of years but not in a legal field? I have been out of school for about 8 years, but have never worked as a paralegal or in a law office or anything like that.
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 08:29:27 PM »

what does 'pip you' mean?
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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 08:40:39 PM »

what does 'pip you' mean?


Like, count it against you, or consider it a black mark.  Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 09:43:39 PM »

what does 'pip you' mean?


Like, count it against you, or consider it a black mark.  Tongue

Oh.  I guess that term hasn't made it to or into common use in Socal/on the west coast.  I've never heard anybody use that before!  Is it an east coast or mid west thing, kinda like in some states everybody refers to soda as 'pop' and instead of saying 'grab me a coke' they say 'can you grab me a pop while you're in the kitchen'?  I learned that one in a fast food drive-thru when in the midwest for my brothers wedding.  I placed my order for a meal deal combo that included a drink and the girl asked "and your pop?", I was confused (but thinking Wow, cool friendly family type town!) and said he was back at the hotel eating room service and didn't want anything, then she asked again 'what kind of pop you want with your burger combo?'

As to your question, no LS's don't pip you for not having work experience in the legal field.  Work experience in a law office and/or as a paralegal does not impress them or give you an application edge.  LS's generally like students that don't think they already know the law, how it works, how to be a lawyer, etc.  They want you to be the student and learn the law and how it works from them since you are applying to be a student at their school.

It doesn't hurt to have WE in a law office or other legal type of job on your resume, but it doesn't add big bonus points to your admission chances because it was in a legal realm and you worked with lawyers.

LS's seek to put together a diverse set of people with diverse backgrounds and experiences for each incoming class, so any good/interesting non-legal work experience that demonstrates the qualities LS's seek in students and that makes you diverse/unique/interesting in some way is good for your application.

PS:  I'm going to try using pip in conversation with some friends and people around the town to see if they get it!   Smiley
Would it be proper use to say in conversation to a friend, say if we were hanging out at a bar, "After I said hi, introduced myself, and bought her a drink we talked for a few minutes and she seemed into me.  IDK what happened, I thought she would give me her number but then her friend showed up and pip'd me, then they both walked away" ?
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